Does Christianity call us to meekly forbear evil, or to courageously use the power at our disposal? A Defense of Secession

When should Christians put down their weapons (their political power) in the interest of unity, and when should they fight for what is right and good?

“To everything there is a season… a time for war, and a time for peace.” (Ecclesiastes 3)

Christians, most of you know that there is such a thing as a “just war”, a war in which it is right for Christians to engage in battle.  The “just war” is a well-accepted doctrine of the Church. Therefore you should also know that there comes a time when Christians are needed to devote their attention to political battles.

In Deuteronomy 20, God said “When you go to war… do not be found faint hearted or afraid… for the Lord your God is the one who goes with you to fight.”  David said “Praise be to the Lord, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle” Ps 144:1.  Psalm 18 is primarily about a praise of God for helping David to fight. 

Jesus said we are to be salt and light.

Light reveals the truth.  Evangelism is how we can be a light, but how can we be salt?

Salt preserves meat.  If it has no flavor, it is worthless.  If the church does not influence the culture to be more moral than it otherwise would be, it is not being the church.

How can Christians take the drastic political steps that are necessary to end abortion?

Courage is the mark of a Christian because he does not fear death. 

For the Christian, “to live is Christ, and to die is gain.” The Christian knows he is accepted by God.   The Christian will do whatever he believes Christ wishes him to do, because Christ, as Lord and Master, deserves his allegiance.

In Roman times, as with the Puritans in England in the 1600s, Christians refused to compromise their conscience under intense government pressure.  The Romans demanded that Christians offer incense to Caesar as a god.  The Anglicans and Catholics demanded that Puritans conform to adulterated religious forms. But Christians chose to be executed and tortured rather than disobey Christ.

In the 1770s, American colonists became concerned that the increasing tyranny of King George would enforce Anglicanism upon the colonies.

Their response was to take the steps necessary to provoke a conflict between Britain and the colonies, to force colonists to choose between submission and independence.

Will Christians in our age take the initiative to secede from Washington DC as our forefathers seceded from Britain? Or will they be unable to break out of our long habit of forbearance and submission?

In Christianity, submission and forbearance are virtues.

Jesus taught us to be meek (to keep our strength tamed). Love is long-suffering and patient. Yet Christians are also called to use our strength to protect the weak and to defend the common good.

Chivalry was a uniquely Christian concept that produced Christian knights who were not wild and destructive, but still brave.  They did not abdicate their responsibility to use their strength for the good.  The pope even called the West to the crusades to regain the ability of Christians to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Galilee.

Establishment Republicans such as Romney and Paul Ryan seem to have fetishized forbearance and submission as if it were the only way to retain their nobility and class status.  They don’t want to be called a bad boy by the godless.  Therefore they have forfeited the ability to exert force to defend the good. Voters were attracted to Trump in 2016 because he seemed willing to use all the power at his disposal, rather than compromise.

Christians are usually willing to submit and forbear when a commander-in-chief makes a decision they disagree with. Soldiers know that if they were only willing to fight under circumstances that they are 100% in agreement with, their careers could be very short.  There are a variety of opinions in an army, but it will fail unless the army cooperates.

The Declaration of Independence lists a string of abuses that the colonists put up with before they finally chose to secede. It states that seceding for a light or temporary reason would have been wrong.

The age of the “battle of ideas” is over. 

Gone are the days when conservatives had equal access to the schools and colleges where voters are formed.  The Left now has control over the tv media and magazines, online forums, Hollywood, celebrities, etc.

Although elite control of D.C. is partially interrupted temporarily by Trump, after his presidency ends, elite control will be complete again.

If you follow non-corporate news such as the Christian Post or the Daily Signal, you know that religious liberty in the US is under threat.  You know that it has already been lost in countries such as Canada and the UK, where progressives have a majority of the voters.

Should Christians work for secession or for unity?

Have the red states now come to the point where Christians should no longer forbear and submit?  Should they now begin a process that will result in the secession of the red states?

If Texas secedes, and Texas’ red-state neighbors decide to join Texas rather than remaining with the US, every red state in the US will have to decide whether to federate with Texas or remain with the blue states.

The history of the past century shows that America continues to move farther from traditional morality every decade, and there is no reason to expect that to change.

But the story would be different in a federation of red states.  Each red state would be more red than it is now because of voluntary migration of liberals out and conservatives in.  And there would be no Democrat senators, and very few Democrat representatives.  Conservatives would be able to keep control of their states and of the central government without RINO’s.  If pitted against a liberal, a conservative candidate would no longer need money from the donor class to win.

All of the great ideas for fixing DC that Democrats will never agree to would become possible for the central government of the red-state federation. The new constitution would specify that the constitution must be interpreted according to original intent.  It could be amended to eliminate all the clauses that are misinterpreted by liberal judges today.  The jurisdiction of the judicial branch could be clarified. With only conservative presidents, the judges would be mostly originalist judges anyway.

Each red state would finally be free from federal interference in social policy. States would be free to defend the unborn as they defend the born from homicide. They could define marriage traditionally.  For the foreseeable future, there would be no government interference in the freedom to criticize Islam or LGBT or address people according to the birth sex.  Girls would not be forced to shower with men.

Would you be willing to work for secession if it would create a society where the government does not prosecute Christians for following their conscience?  Where the federal government will not bankrupt the country?  Where immigration will be controlled to prevent the entry of bad voters who would change our culture? 

Or do you feel that Christians should submit forever to preserve “unity”? 

Unity is nice, but unity with whom?  Why is unity with 50 states better than unity with 30 states, if you don’t want unity with the whole world?  No one proposes sharing a federal government with Canada and Mexico and Cuba, so why are we morally obligated to share a federal government with Massachusetts and California forever?

Christ prayed that His Church would be one.  The Church is one. Every member of the true body of Christ is united, via the Holy Spirit, with every other member in Christ.  They are united by Christ, not by government.  They are already divided by the borders of 200 countries.  When there are 201 countries, the Church will still be united in Christ, by the Holy Spirit.

We can still have unity with family members in blue states even when we no longer have a federal government in common.  And we can still have denominational unity with churches in the blue states.  We won’t get any farther away from them.  We won’t reject them.  We’ll simply no longer have a federal government in common with them. 

We will still forbear with the opinions of Hillary voters in our red states.  Some of them will choose to stay, and that’s their choice.  We will still exercise restraint in how we treat fellow citizens in our communities.  But there is no reason to preserve the Union with the blue states that trumps the reasons to abolish it.

Splitting America does not end America or the American experiment.  It simply provides two or more governments for America.  Americans will still live in the same geographic space. This is not the destruction of America but the bifurcation of America.  The Anglosphere has many governments: the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.  Secession of a state will simply increase that number. 

Is Americans Christians’ submission to unrighteous federal decisions actually righteous submission to Caesar?

Or is our patience actually abdicating our obligation to do what is in our power to create a just society?

There is no reason to leave our red states under the power of a bad Caesar when we can create a new federation with a relatively righteous government.   The states created the federal government.  They delegated limited authority to the federal government, and now it’s time to retract that consent to its governance.    If your state declares independence from the USA, there is nothing wrong with submitting to your governor by following him out of the Union.

Besides, in America the people are Caesar and the government are their servants.  Indeed they serve us by setting direction as leaders, but they are still servants, who can be disposed of at the next election. In Romans 13, Paul teaches submission to Caesar, the one who has power in society.  In America, it is the people who have power. 

Of course we should follow laws when they are just laws, meaning they are compatible with Biblical morality.  Paul’s justification is for submitting to rulers is because they punish wrongdoers (verse 5). If they are do not punish wrongdoers, such as abortionists, they don’t meet the qualifications of verse 3 through 4.

Christians are motivated by the desire to see righteous laws, judges, and justice.

Micah 6:8 “He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?”

“When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.” Proverbs 29:2

It is sinful to choose to remain unequally yoked

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?… 17 Therefore, “Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord.”

Proverbs 1:10-16 “if sinners say come with us… do not go with them”

In these verses we see the idea of not participating in sin with others. This applies to our state remaining in a Union with a federal government that funds Planned Parenthood (and still does now after two years of Republican rule). The federal government, especially through the judiciary, pressures schools and companies to promote homosexual behavior and transgenderism, and is beginning to eliminate freedom of conscience on such issues. There is no country that is without sin, but clearly it is time to cut ties with the blue states who want sin so badly.

God punished Israel when it relied on alliances with godless states. The Old Testament is filled with God’s condemnation through the prophets of Israel’s military and economic alliances with pagan states (such as Egypt). Today, the red states are in an alliance with godless states.

The USA is a kingdom divided against itself:

Jesus said “If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand”  America today is a kingdom divided against itself, red state vs. blue state, and therefore can not stand.  In earlier times, blue states accepted traditional values and therefore weren’t pulling in such radical directions.  Now that Christians have so little influence in the blue states, the blue states will race farther and farther from tradition. Now the US is equally divided, in terms of population, creating instability.  There is the potential for civil war in the event that the Left tries to confiscate guns or an election result is contested, because Democrats and Republicans no longer trust each other.  They also don’t trust federal institutions or the media.

Amos 3:3 “can two walk together unless they are agreed?”

Jesus said “blessed are the peacemakers”

Peaceful, orderly, negotiated secession, even if it is unilateral, is a way to prevent civil war.

It feels good to ignore conflict and pretend that we can just agree to be nice to each other, but when fundamental goals for the country are not compatible, conflict can not be ignored.

God favors national independence

In the Old Testament, whenever Israel rebelled against God, the nation of Israel would lose its independence to an empire or be attacked by another nation. When Israel returned to God, it would regain national independence. In the Bible, empire is a curse, national independence is a blessing.

The USA contains multiple nations: Yankees, New York City, Appalachians, Southrons, Texans, Westerners, Latino colonies, the Left Coast, and “White ethnic” cities such as Chicago, etc. (The white ethnics did not all assimilate to American voting patterns).

The Constitution allowed each state independence in internal matters, but over the centuries the federal government has illegally grown to the point that states no longer have such independence. The Union began as a blessing, but became a curse when the feds took away the independence of these nations.

The Union was God’s will because it secured the independence of each state from powerful foreign empires such as Spain, Britain, and France. But it is no longer God’s will because it has allowed Washington DC to become an empire that eliminated state independence. And a union of 50 states is no longer necessary to secure independence from foreign empires.

God confused the languages at Babel saying that if the world were unified, there’s no telling what they would do. God is against unity in global governance.  Conformity and coercion are satanic. As the world learns to communicate with each other again (by learning English and using Google Translate), we are approaching a one-world government under the anti-Christ, as prophesied in the book of Revelation.

God wants His Church to be one, but not the nations of the world.  Independence is how a free republic can survive in a world where the Church is outnumbered.   It’s time to make a federation where Christians are not so outnumbered.

Jeremiah lived in a time when the nation of Judah refused to believe that they would be conquered by a pagan empire because they were God’s nation. You live in a time when some conservatives won’t let themselves understand that the 50 states were conquered by pagans for 8 years of Obama, and will soon be conquered in another presidential election. They have been conquered by a pagan Supreme Court for many decades.

Secession is a Biblical concept

When Israel’s Northern Kingdom became pagan under the influence of the immigrant Samaritans, it split from the Southern Kingdom (Judah). This secession allowed better chances for the worship of God in the Southern Kingdom, especially in the earlier generations. 1 Kings 12:15 says that this secession was God’s will: “for it was a turn of affairs brought about by the LORD that he might fulfill his word, which the LORD spoke by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam.” Unlike Abraham Lincoln, God specifically forbid the Southern Kingdom from forcing the tribes of the Northern Kingdom to remain in their union with the southern tribes in 1 Kings 12:24:Thus says the LORD, You shall not go up or fight against your relatives the people of Israel. Every man return to his home, for this thing is from me.”

After King Saul of Israel died, David created a new country of Judah which he ruled for 7 years until Saul’s heir Ishbosheth died (2 Samuel 2). This kingdom of Judah seceded from Israel when it accepted David as king rather than an heir of Saul, who ruled the rest of Israel.  After Ishbosheth died, David ruled Israel, including Judah, for 33 years.

Abraham and Lot separated their extended households into two different areas to stop the fighting between their two groups of herdsmen. It produced peace and preserved their relationship.

Red states should secede to avoid the judgement that is coming on the USA.

Does God’s goodness mean that God will heal our wicked land? 

Israel was “God’s people.”  God promised that if all Israel (not just the religious remnant) repented, He would heal the land of Israel:

2 Chronicles 7:14 says “If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”

Notice this promise, given to Israel hundreds of years before the first Christian, does not say what happens to the USA if all Christians repent. All the children of Israel were God’s people, and called by His name, not just the religious ones.  The USA is not Israel. Unlike Israel, only a portion of the USA is God’s people. This is why all the times that all of His people in the USA have prayed, God has not healed the USA. 

God has continued to allow the USA to become a harlot after other values besides God, because He allows the pagan majority free will.

When only a minority of Israel repented, God used foreign empires to kill, enslave, and humiliate Israel so that their pride and sinful culture and sinful elites would not prevent them from relationship with Him.

This judgement did bring revival.  People misapply 2 Chron 7:14, hoping that if enough Christians pray, that God promises He will provide a short-cut to revival for the USA that doesn’t involve judgement.  This is a misinterpretation of the verse, and it is also a misunderstanding of free will.  God usually chooses not to over-rule free will, because He want love and honor of Him to be freely given, not forced.  God wants revival more than we do, He wants holiness more than we do, but he allows free will instead. 

God does not use His power the way we expect.  He orchestrates punishment to bring people to repentance or to preserve His honor.

The US is in rebellion against God, as evidenced by 63 million abortions in this generation, legislation regarding sodomy, etc. We can get God’s blessing if we can get a new country that does not reject or rebel against Him. But currently, the US government rejects God and His protection. Secession allows a RELATIVELY righteous state to avoid the punishment that an unrighteous USA deserves sooner.

If we choose to maintain union with perverse, idolatrous, murderous blue states for selfish concerns, we will be judged for supporting their murder. Especially since the main motivations for remaining in union with these states is fear of man, weakness, fear of loss, comfort, and selfishness.  Supporting their sin is sin. 

Isaiah 60:10 says “For the nation and kingdom that will not serve you shall perish; those nations shall be utterly laid waste.”

John Jay, the first chief justice of the US Supreme Court, said “No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian religion… Should our republic ever forget this fundamental precept of governance, this great experiment will then be surely doomed.”

Doing God’s will includes fulfilling our duties as citizens, not just doing “ministry”

Even professional ministers of Christ know that they should do more than just “ministry.”  They know that they have duties to their parents as sons, to their siblings as a brother, to their spouse as a husband.  A nation is an extended family of inter-related and inter-married families. Christians also have a duty to the nation itself as a citizen.  You do not have to be “called” to politics.  Political activism is the duty of every citizen.   The Old Testament says that if we see danger approaching, and do not warn the people, then their blood is on our head. 

I’ve focused my adult life on my calling to Christian ministry. But for the first time since I was born again, I now feel that America is in a short season of time where we should put more focus on our duties as citizens than on our callings to ministry.  This is because the radical Left is gaining total control over all the levers of power in our country.  The radical part I am speaking of is the part of the Left that hates Christianity and Christian ministry because they hate the idea that they are accountable to a Higher Authority, they don’t want their shamefulness to be called shameful, and they hate the presence of anyone who thinks their shamefulness is shameful. One of their driving motivations is to achieve the goal of using the power of the federal government and all of society’s institutions to stop Christian ministry and force people to stop saying anything holy that will contrast with their perversion. 

The law of a country not only serves as a code for enforcement, but also teaches society that some things are immoral and unacceptable.  In the Great Commission, just before He ascended to Heaven, Jesus said that we should (not only) baptize the nations, but also “teach them to obey all that I have commanded you.”  Christians have been shut out of the institutions that teach at the federal level, so how can we teach our “nation” to do all that He commanded us? In a federation of red states, we can have righteous laws on marriage, abortion, and gender that will teach our society.  And this moral code won’t stop us from ensuring religious liberty. It will actually help religious liberty by ensuring the Christians remain free to preach. Unlike the UK and Canada, a federation of red states would always allow people to share the whole Bible, even when it criticizes homosexual behavior and erroneous beliefs (such as Islam).

If you are inspired to work for a righteous society, in which federal judges no longer lead our society astray, support Move Oregon’s Border at and watch the videos at .

Time’s up. The federal government has wasted 45 years without outlawing abortion. It’s time to put a stop to it at the state level despite D.C.

Consider directing more of your charitable giving to TNM. There will always be plenty of churches to attend, even if one falls to under-funding. But only secession can protect our freedom to share and teach the whole Gospel and prepare missionaries for the Muslim world.

Tithing is not just for the local church. It is for the whole mission of the whole worldwide Church, including missions and Justice. This is a justice ministry. The “storehouse” in the Old Testament was not a local church. It was at the Temple in Jerusalem. The money from the storehouse was not for the synagogue preachers, or for the erection of synagogue buildings. It was for orphans and widows who lived all over Israel, and the Levites who lived in a few cities across Israel.

A Prayer:

God, let your people be bold. Let them do their duties as citizens. Give us a state where religious liberty can be preserved, where you Gospel will be preached, where false teachings such as Islam and transgenderism may be freely criticized, where babies are not murdered before birth, where sovereignty remains in the hands of the people, where immigration of bad voters who threaten all this may be ended, where righteous judges give righteous judgments, where men may earn enough to provide for large families without their wives’ help, where men may defend their families with firearms, Amen.

A Hymn: God of Grace And God of Glory by H. E. Fosdick

God of grace and God of glory
On Thy people pour Thy power
Crown Thine ancient church’s story
Bring her bud to glorious flower
Grant us wisdom
Grant us courage
For the facing of this hour

Lo! the hosts of evil round us
Scorn Thy Christ, assail His ways!
Fears and doubts too long have bound us
Free our hearts to work and praise
Grant us wisdom
Grant us courage
For the living of these days

Save us from weak resignation
To the evils we deplore

Let the search for Thy salvation
Be our glory ever more
Grant us wisdom
Grant us courage
Serving Thee whom we adore

4 thoughts on “Does Christianity call us to meekly forbear evil, or to courageously use the power at our disposal? A Defense of Secession

  1. I agree with everything you guys say except you need to quit propping up Trump. Trump is an elite. Trump has run off thectwo most fiscally conservative members of congress and gave the Democrats the store on spending and has grown the size of guv. There are tons of #NeverTrump conservative Christian people who would be open to secession but who will never listen when they see secession and Trump mentioned in the same breath.

  2. To me, secession is the best alternative. I’ve been looking for a way out of the ‘blue state(s)’ for a long while and Idaho was my favorite place to live after I left Alaska MANY years ago, but as I age, that cold is more to deal with than I want… (I’ve got horses and HAVE to be out a couple times every day at a minimum).
    Mostly we need to pray for this to be done quickly. I feel ‘the end’ is very near and things have to be in motion yesterday.
    Thank you for a nicely spelled out Biblically based argument!

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